I don't know if Mickey belongs in Cooperstown but he sure deserved more than 25% of the vote which was his highest showing. And Rusty Staub? In that same year he went 13, 13, 12, 11 and 10 innings in 5 games. Then they all got old and the team slid into rebuilding- different than the Mets? Rusty played another decade. A Staub-Kingman combo would have provided more run support for big three, and probably a 90+ win season. August 18, 2001 Mickey had a lifetime 3.44 ERA and 2832 strikeouts. So he went from being the long-time Tiger Ace (and best Tiger- the 1968 World Series was won by him- and also almost the 1972 Playoffs) to just a nobody for New York- can you blame him for this back-stabbing trade by Tiger management? Take a look at his stats on baseball-reference and you will shake your head. Mickey was finished and Rusty still had about 8-10 years left, even though the last couple were solely as a pinch hitter. 170 lbs.? Jamey Bumbalo We are going all the way!" support. January 12, 2011 However, Mets management, in their infinite wisdom, wanted to trade Rusty Staub so badly, that they were willing to get anything in return, and actually had to go to great lengths to convince Lolich to come to the Mets. EG Grant was a real hindrance to the Mets. Not that THAT did squat for the Mets! Bob P Stu Baron He also hit a home run in Game Two of the Series and outpitched Denny "31 Win" McClain in the Series. bob saunders No contest. As for all the innings Lolich pitched in Detroit, in today's game 300 innings is comparable to two full seasons, what with pitch counts and constantly babying starting pitchers. Shari Lolich finished his career 12th on the all-time strikeout list with 2,832, second only to Steve Carlton among left-handers. John, we know the condition the team was in when Lolich got here. And by the time he left Detroit, he was fatter than Lolich. May 7, 2013 Within a year, the corpulent Lolich had retired to open a doughnut shop in suburban Detroit. For a fourth starter, on a four man rotation, Lolich was decent. As Sonny Jurgenson once said "you don't throw the ball with your stomach." There were some games where the Mets did not give him support. 3.50 was more of a mediocre E.R.A in those days.About his profile of 6'1" and 170 lbs., I looked him up in the Baseball Encyclopedia and that's what they have. Too bad we waited until '76 to bring him in, although his numbers indicated a lack of run support. With the success of the SpaceX Crew Dragon launch did you know NASA had a Lake Orion graduate as one of their astronauts? News. However, it baffled me why the '76 Mets, who had Seaver, Koosman and Matlack, would trade one of their best hitters and an every-day player (and they didn't have that many good hitters) for a fourth or fifth starting pitcher. (With three lefties and a Seaver, the Mets were lefty killers) But the Mets needed hitting. To the guy who scored the game when Lolich gave up two homers to the no name pitcher- big deal? 76 talking about this. April 23, 2003 Mickey loved his Harley. No contest. Mr. Sparkle Mickey Lolich did not do too bad with the Mets, He just did not get the Reading this brings back my memory of the trade that sent Rusty packing to Detroit. No contest. I look at his numbers as a Met and they're not bad. He may have left behind a fine legacy in Detroit but when he got to New York he stunk.You weren't happy with Rusty and we weren't happy with Lolich, so let's just call the trade a wash. Case closed. August 11, 2015 Anybody remember how Rusty looked those last few years in New York? I used to think that Lolich sucked with the Mets, but after reviewing his stats and starts from that year, he was a damn effective #4 starter. Bartolo Colon etc). Enjoythesebits of LOcal history. As a 44-year-old with a beer belly, I can relate. His not being elected to Cooperstown is a major oversight. The plan was apparently: Vail LF/RF, Kingman LF/RF/1B, Milner, LF/RF/1B for those three spots. April 6, 2012 March 5, 2006 The Lolich for Rusty Staub trade might be the first and only trade where two players who were well known for food establishments were traded for each other. Bob The plan was apparently: Vail LF/RF, Kingman LF/RF/1B, Milner, LF/RF/1B for those three spots. Mickey loved his Harley. ''Everybody wants to meet you because you're a ballplayer,'' Lolich said. For a fourth starter, on a four man rotation, Lolich was decent. God bless him wherever he is and good luck! But the facts are:Lolich spent 16 years in the Majors. October 19, 2011 170 pounds, maybe not but here's a fact: hurled 376 innings in the early 70's. February 28, 2003 The Staub trade was ridiculous but not Lolich's fault. Joe was hit by a Bob Moose pitch to drive in the tying run, but the '76 Mets couldn't stand such success, as two singles and a double play grounder by future Mets coach Bill Robinson in the top of the 10th off Skip Lockwood gave the Bucs a 2-1 win. feat fan To preserve these articles as they originally appeared, The Times does not alter, edit or update them. LA-Mets As a teenager, he excelled playing in American Legion Baseball and in the Babe Ruth League, setting Oregon state records for strikeouts. 3-time AL All-Star (1969, 1971 & 1972) 1968 World Series MVP AL Wins Leader (1971) AL Innings Pitched Leader (1971) AL Strikeouts Leader (1971) AL Complete Games Leader (1971) AL Shutouts Leader (1967) April 6, 2012 In that same year he went 13, 13, 12, 11 and 10 innings in 5 games. Take a look at his stats on baseball-reference and you will shake your head. September 12, 2002 October 19, 2011 Peter Lolich pitched fairly well with the Mets, in fact I recall a 2-0 shutout at Shea he pitched against the Cardinals in about two hours. Lolich may have gone 8-13 in 1976 but Koosman did even worse the next two years (1977 and 1978). Shari feat fan He pitched over 300 innings for 4 years in a row, coming close to 400 one year. Pitchers have good days and then once in a while they hang a curve? McLain got all the publicity but Lolich got the wins in post season 1968. But keeping 105-RBI Staub would have provided middle lineup power 100% of the time. For a fourth starter, on a four man rotation, Lolich was decent. Mickey loved his Harley. Staub a great fielder with a great arm? The Mets traded the best player they ever had for a bunch of stiffs. =Chuck= A few more years as the ace of the Tigers staff probably would have landed him in the Hall of Fame. I have to respectfully disagree with NYB Buff's claim that Lolich belongs in Cooperstown. I don't know if Mickey belongs in Cooperstown but he sure deserved more than 25% of the vote which was his highest showing. And yes, maybe Koosman had losing years in the late 70's but he had been a Met long enough with a winning record that the fans rooted for him. October 19, 2011 Another guy who didn't get enough run support, and - yes - he ended up being blamed for the Staub trade rather than Grant himself. snook I saw Lolich pitch at Shea on July 29, 1976, a Thursday afternoon game following morning showers, probably a getaway game, attended by a sparse crowd of 12,588. I'll take Mickey's pitching line - except for W&L - any time. They did not let him pitch the way he wanted. Its not Rustys fault the Tigers traded for hitting when they already had hitting. June 2, 2006 He had a 2.59 ERA at the end of July. Lolich committed to playing 2 years for the Mets, but then reneged on that promise. For a fourth starter, on a four man rotation, Lolich was decent. Hey Mets Fan, Lolich never asked to be traded to New York. I remember that the Daily News at the time would have a one-page section on Sunday that showed some of the athletes with their families away from the ballpark. Fact is Lolich was always overweight. Bartolo Colon etc). I remember as a 11 year old when the Mets traded for him thinking "Great, we have Mickey Lolich! The Staub trade was ridiculous but not Lolich's fault. November 12, 2006 The plan was apparently: Vail LF/RF, Kingman LF/RF/1B, Milner, LF/RF/1B for those three spots. August 7, 2018 3-time MLB All-Star who started more games as a pitcher than anyone in Detroit Tigers history. Ken Akerman feat fan Lolich was a newcomer that was a big loser, and he reminded us of how stupid the Mets management was for always going after fading superstars. Jay I simply loved to see him walk onto the mound; I knew that we as a ball club would be a winner any time he pitched, but as they always say time moves on, but our memory is always around. I recall one year where he had 121 RBI's. And of course Lolich did not want to be here, and the fans did not want him here either, so I am sure that's why he skipped town the next year. After one year in New York Lolich retired. The fact that he pitched four consecutive 300+ inning years; that's like 10 years in today's game. Too bad we waited until '76 to bring him in, although his numbers indicated a lack of run support. Lolich committed to playing 2 years for the Mets, but then reneged on that promise. Well, I never realized that Rusty Staub was such a favorite in New York, beside the old Tigers announcer George Kell always making a fuss over Rusty Staub's New York restaurant. But this one defied all logic from the beginning. According to his profile above, his height and weight are listed as follows:Height: 6.01 Weight: 170170 pounds on a 6 ft. 1 in. The two 13-inning games didn't even count for complete games because they went 15 innings! Lolich went down in baseball lore by registering three complete game victories and securing the Most . Only two others, Steve Carlton and Randy Johnson, have surpassed him. I look at his numbers as a Met and they're not bad. We do not factor unsold items into our prices. I wish the Mets had a pitcher today with a 3.22 ERA. Or even a platoon as Vail was righty, and Milner was lefty.In the days of 4-man rotation, Seaver-Koosman-Matlack had them covered 75% of the time. Mickey loved his Harley. April 23, 2003 snook April 30, 2009 eddiek Koufax would have 175 by the All-Star Break. He had a 3/4 delivery that thrived on the weight shift. Visit the Crane Pool Forum to discuss the Mets and just about anything else! See the starting lineups, who started at each position year-by-year, and leaders by position. When he was with the Mets, I gave him the name "TOO MUCH EATER" but then again the Orange and Blue has always had big boned hurlers (El Sid. Gary from Chesapeake This has never happened before? November 12, 2006 Like Seaver and Koosman, Mickey had pretty meager run support throughout his career. As a 44-year-old with a beer belly, I can relate. As a 44-year-old with a beer belly, I can relate. Another guy who didn't get enough run support, and - yes - he ended up being blamed for the Staub trade rather than Grant himself. This has never happened before? Lolich committed to playing 2 years for the Mets, but then reneged on that promise. Doug S. I recall one year where he had 121 RBI's. John Bruce snook His era of 3.22 is only .09% more than 20-game winner Carlton for the Phils. But I think the final verdict has to be that neither team would have fared much differently with or without the Lolich/Staub trade. And of course Lolich did not want to be here, and the fans did not want him here either, so I am sure that's why he skipped town the next year. The trade was a great one for the Tigers and yet another whopper in a long history of bad trades for the Mets. I recall one year where he had 121 RBI's. murphy Another guy who didn't get enough run support, and - yes - he ended up being blamed for the Staub trade rather than Grant himself. September 24, 2005 Three bad starts on 8/3 and 8/13 as well as his next to last start on 9/15 is what really bloated his ERA, not that 3.22 even in the '70s was that shabby.Yes, he was far removed from his prime but to say he sucked is pretty short sighted and flies in the face of the fact that he pitched well enough to be a 12-15 game winner, but then this is the same year Seaver pitched Cy Young caliber ball and went only 14-11. He later came back to play for the Padres. May 6, 2003 Joe was hit by a Bob Moose pitch to drive in the tying run, but the '76 Mets couldn't stand such success, as two singles and a double play grounder by future Mets coach Bill Robinson in the top of the 10th off Skip Lockwood gave the Bucs a 2-1 win. McLain got all the publicity but Lolich got the wins in post season 1968. But this one defied all logic from the beginning. 6'1", 170???? November 19, 2002 My memory is that while the Mets' front office had made dumb and abysmal trades in the past, this was one that just made no sense in any way, shape, or form. Ok, the height is correct but make no mistake,a consistent, determined winner, Mickey Lolich was in the spotlight throughout his career. Mickey loved his Harley. But then Vail got hurt, and Kranepool and the aging Torre got more playing time.The better plan was to keep Staub, and let Milner and Vail fight for a spot. That would make him a star in today's market. January 12, 2011 - Now for the trade itself. Yes, Mickey had some great years with the Tigers, no disrespect to him, but acquiring him at the cost of Rusty was one of the Mets' top three bonehead trades. Mike B Three bad starts on 8/3 and 8/13 as well as his next to last start on 9/15 is what really bloated his ERA, not that 3.22 even in the '70s was that shabby.Yes, he was far removed from his prime but to say he sucked is pretty short sighted and flies in the face of the fact that he pitched well enough to be a 12-15 game winner, but then this is the same year Seaver pitched Cy Young caliber ball and went only 14-11. My memory is that while the Mets' front office had made dumb and abysmal trades in the past, this was one that just made no sense in any way, shape, or form. Lolich struck out more American League hitters than any other lefty in the history of baseball- that includes Randy Johnson, etc. The Staub trade was ridiculous but not Lolich's fault. In this World Series, Lolich pitched three complete games and allowed only five runs an ERA of 1.67. January 12, 2011 McLain got all the publicity but Lolich got the wins in post season 1968. Mickey loved his Harley. October 19, 2011 Scrappy McLain got all the publicity but Lolich got the wins in post season 1968. Bobster1985 (thankfully returning in '81). Anyone can read what you share. NO WAY he was 170 pounds. But I have to say, I laughed out loud when I saw his physical statistics on this site. The plan was apparently: Vail LF/RF, Kingman LF/RF/1B, Milner, LF/RF/1B for those three spots. He normally threw lots of pitches and completed a high percentage of his games. He was a big (emphasis: BIG) bust in New York. As somebody mentioned previously, this is really all Mike Vail's fault. Jim Snedeker I don't know if Mickey belongs in Cooperstown but he sure deserved more than 25% of the vote which was his highest showing. Mike B January 12, 2011 feat fan Five years before he became a Met, Lolich threw for 376 innings! Lolich won complete games in Games 2 & 5 and faced and beat Gibson and the St. Louis Cardinals in Game 7 by the score of 4-1 as the Tigers won the World Championship. But what can you expect when the team only averaged 3.4 runs for Seaver per start and 3.3 for Lolich? Mike B To the guy who scored the game when Lolich gave up two homers to the no name pitcher- big deal? Only two others, Steve Carlton and Randy Johnson, have surpassed him. April 30, 2009 In that same year he went 13, 13, 12, 11 and 10 innings in 5 games. Or even a platoon as Vail was righty, and Milner was lefty.In the days of 4-man rotation, Seaver-Koosman-Matlack had them covered 75% of the time. He told the New York Press, he pitched with his head and arm not his abdomen. I recall one year where he had 121 RBI's. For a fourth starter, on a four man rotation, Lolich was decent. And of course Lolich did not want to be here, and the fans did not want him here either, so I am sure that's why he skipped town the next year. I looked him up in The Sports Encyclopedia 2002 and they have 6' and 210 lbs. Jim Snedeker In association with Mets By the Numbers, we present a full history of who wore what number, and when! August 7, 2018 He had a 2.59 ERA at the end of July. How many did he own? The fact that he pitched four consecutive 300+ inning years; that's like 10 years in today's game. March 22, 2005 (thankfully returning in '81). Pitchers have good days and then once in a while they hang a curve? Like Seaver and Koosman, Mickey had pretty meager run support throughout his career. Mickey Lolich did not do too bad with the Mets, He just did not get the November 3, 2006 Jamey Bumbalo October 13, 2008 Mickey Lolich captured the sporting headlines in 1968 by upstaging Hall of Famer, Bob Gibson, in the World Series. Lolich was still productive but he was never accepted in New York because of whom he was traded for. Jim Snedeker A Staub-Kingman combo would have provided more run support for big three, and probably a 90+ win season. But in his final season with the Tigers, he became the all-time leader in strikeouts for left-handed pitchers. Usually a bad trade doesn't reveal itself as bad until later when the player that came clearly is not working out. But keeping 105-RBI Staub would have provided middle lineup power 100% of the time. Bartolo Colon etc). And Rusty Staub? January 12, 2011 Lolich committed to playing 2 years for the Mets, but then reneged on that promise. The trade was a great one for the Tigers and yet another whopper in a long history of bad trades for the Mets. Grant was a real hindrance to the Mets. As a kid collecting baseball cards and watching ballgames in the '70s, I remember being struck by Lolich's belly. March 2, 2003 McLain got all the publicity but Lolich got the wins in post season 1968. Mickey pitched to a poor 8-13 record but he also had a 3.22 ERA which is pretty damn good. Lolich won complete games in Games 2 & 5 and faced and beat Gibson and the St. Louis Cardinals in Game 7 by the score of 4-1 as the Tigers won the World Championship. September 29, 2007 December 8, 2006 My memory is that while the Mets' front office had made dumb and abysmal trades in the past, this was one that just made no sense in any way, shape, or form. Grant was a real hindrance to the Mets. My memory is that while the Mets' front office had made dumb and abysmal trades in the past, this was one that just made no sense in any way, shape, or form. But in his final season with the Tigers, he became the all-time leader in strikeouts for left-handed pitchers. Jim Snedeker HmmBaseball Reference.com is usually beyond redoubt, but I would say with almost unimpeachable certainty that Mickey Lolich weighed somewhere in the vicinity of 240 by the time he was huffing and puffing his way up the pitchers mound at Shea in 1976.Another awful trade, courtesy of M. Donald Grant, who couldn't wait to run Rusty Staub (coming off a team-record setting 105 RBI season) out of town, weeks after Mrs. Payson passed away. July 15, 2016 I look at his numbers as a Met and they're not bad. Quarry: "I'm a much better singer than Frazier. But what can you expect when the team only averaged 3.4 runs for Seaver per start and 3.3 for Lolich? He had terrific stuff. His three wins in the 1968 Series against the Cardinals were the apex of his career. HmmBaseball Reference.com is usually beyond redoubt, but I would say with almost unimpeachable certainty that Mickey Lolich weighed somewhere in the vicinity of 240 by the time he was huffing and puffing his way up the pitchers mound at Shea in 1976.Another awful trade, courtesy of M. Donald Grant, who couldn't wait to run Rusty Staub (coming off a team-record setting 105 RBI season) out of town, weeks after Mrs. Payson passed away. I look at his numbers as a Met and they're not bad. senor ortiz "Bill" Scripps who asked for a radio set to experiment with. October 19, 2011 January 12, 2011 This has never happened before? He wanted to finish out his career in Detroit, where he had some great years (the photo of him jumping on Bill Freehan after the final out in the 1968 World Series is a classic). Bobster1985 October 18, 2008 He also had a terrific arm and was a darn good fielder. However, Mets management, in their infinite wisdom, wanted to trade Rusty Staub so badly, that they were willing to get anything in return, and actually had to go to great lengths to convince Lolich to come to the Mets. Pitchers have good days and then once in a while they hang a curve? March 2, 2003 He had a 2.59 ERA at the end of July. You can't be serious. If he had finished his career in Detroit, he probably would have been elected to the Hall Of Fame, with perhaps two more seasons of 15 wins. Like Seaver and Koosman, Mickey had pretty meager run support throughout his career. As for his love of donuts, he could have been the prototype for Homer Simpson. He lost 39 games his last two seasons in Detroit, with an obese ERA both years. And of course Lolich did not want to be here, and the fans did not want him here either, so I am sure that's why he skipped town the next year. I remember when M. Donald Grant traded Staub for Lolich he explained it to disgusted NY sports fans by saying something like "the team needs more speed. I kinda wish he had stayed with the Tigers and I could have rooted for him from afar. NYB Buff He normally threw lots of pitches and completed a high percentage of his games. Mickey was at the tail end of his career when he came to the Mets. bob saunders The last thing the Tigers needed was a dandy hitter whose hitting only went to support lopsided slugfest losses every day. Lolich was a good one, underrated and dominating at times. As somebody mentioned previously, this is really all Mike Vail's fault. The point is he made a bad team worse. The two 13-inning games didn't even count for complete games because they went 15 innings! He may have left behind a fine legacy in Detroit but when he got to New York he stunk.You weren't happy with Rusty and we weren't happy with Lolich, so let's just call the trade a wash. Case closed. But in his final season with the Tigers, he became the all-time leader in strikeouts for left-handed pitchers. In that same year he went 13, 13, 12, 11 and 10 innings in 5 games. I saw Lolich pitch at Shea on July 29, 1976, a Thursday afternoon game following morning showers, probably a getaway game, attended by a sparse crowd of 12,588. He normally threw lots of pitches and completed a high percentage of his games. Hell, he kept his restaurant even after moving on to the Tigers, and still lives in the Big Apple. bogeyman There were some games where the Mets did not give him support. He had a 2.59 ERA at the end of July. December 20, 2019 As a 44-year-old with a beer belly, I can relate. Mickey did a few good games with the Mets as well as a couple shutouts. "But you know, I enjoy making doughnuts. Gary from Chesapeake My memory is that while the Mets' front office had made dumb and abysmal trades in the past, this was one that just made no sense in any way, shape, or form. (And of course Donald Grant) The Mets had to fill 2 corner outfield spots and first base. End of Line What an interesting parallel, huh? November 19, 2002 Ramblin' Pete He normally threw lots of pitches and completed a high percentage of his games. Donut Shoppe Patron But keeping 105-RBI Staub would have provided middle lineup power 100% of the time. We are going all the way!" May 9, 2002 Rusty could hit with the lights out. Lolich won complete games in Games 2 & 5 and faced and beat Gibson and the St. Louis Cardinals in Game 7 by the score of 4-1 as the Tigers won the World Championship. May 7, 2013 He was overweight and kind of babyfaced but I don't remember anyone being more focused or a battler. HmmBaseball Reference.com is usually beyond redoubt, but I would say with almost unimpeachable certainty that Mickey Lolich weighed somewhere in the vicinity of 240 by the time he was huffing and puffing his way up the pitchers mound at Shea in 1976.Another awful trade, courtesy of M. Donald Grant, who couldn't wait to run Rusty Staub (coming off a team-record setting 105 RBI season) out of town, weeks after Mrs. Payson passed away. October 4, 2006 Rusty played another decade. He had a 2.59 ERA at the end of July. That's more realistic but generous, I think! Randy Tate Ken Akerman Although Mick was not the same pitcher in NY that he was in Detroit, everyone seemed to like the guy. He started 45 games and completed 29. So why did you try to destroy the guy? Let me say that again, 376 and that's without a pitch count. Mickey did a few good games with the Mets as well as a couple shutouts. However, I remember Lolich as being quite portly, so his true weight was a lot more than 170 pounds. Mickey Lolich was a great pitcher in the American League. Mike B According to his profile above, his height and weight are listed as follows:Height: 6.01 Weight: 170170 pounds on a 6 ft. 1 in. The Mets acquiring him for Rusty Staub was another trade made by M. Donald Grant out of spite for Staub's salary request. bob saunders Ok, the height is correct but make no mistake,a consistent, determined winner, Mickey Lolich was in the spotlight throughout his career. November 19, 2002 Joe was hit by a Bob Moose pitch to drive in the tying run, but the '76 Mets couldn't stand such success, as two singles and a double play grounder by future Mets coach Bill Robinson in the top of the 10th off Skip Lockwood gave the Bucs a 2-1 win. Raymond Malcuit Or even a platoon as Vail was righty, and Milner was lefty.In the days of 4-man rotation, Seaver-Koosman-Matlack had them covered 75% of the time. September 29, 2007 Lolich committed to playing 2 years for the Mets, but then reneged on that promise. As far as who got the better of the Staub for Lolich deal: Rusty went on to have several excellent seasons in a Tiger uniform. snook May 7, 2013 Maudlin, anecdotal sentiment at its best! August 7, 2018 November 12, 2006 A Staub-Kingman combo would have provided more run support for big three, and probably a 90+ win season. As far as who got the better of the Staub for Lolich deal: Rusty went on to have several excellent seasons in a Tiger uniform. Embed Save PURCHASE A LICENSE November 3, 2006 His era of 3.22 is only .09% more than 20-game winner Carlton for the Phils. As for his love of donuts, he could have been the prototype for Homer Simpson. Donut Shoppe Patron A Staub-Kingman combo would have provided more run support for big three, and probably a 90+ win season. Lolich won complete games in Games 2 & 5 and faced and beat Gibson and the St. Louis Cardinals in Game 7 by the score of 4-1 as the Tigers won the World Championship. =Chuck= Mickey Lolich W WB 837 followers More information Mickey Lolich Doughnut Shop Detroit Tigers Dessert Recipes Desserts Simple Pleasures Donuts Waffles Pastry Cookies More information . Did you boo him or make fun out of him? Lolich - donuts Staub - steak.The food metaphor of trading a steak for a donut is accurate in this and many Mets trades.Would love to see a book written with lists and analysis of all Mets trades. But dad could never pronounce his name right; he always called him "Yo-lich" no matter how many times we corrected him. April 6, 2012 In that same year he went 13, 13, 12, 11 and 10 innings in 5 games. November 3, 2006 God bless him wherever he is and good luck! (thankfully returning in '81). snook I have to respectfully disagree with NYB Buff's claim that Lolich belongs in Cooperstown. February 25, 2003 October 4, 2006 Three bad starts on 8/3 and 8/13 as well as his next to last start on 9/15 is what really bloated his ERA, not that 3.22 even in the '70s was that shabby.Yes, he was far removed from his prime but to say he sucked is pretty short sighted and flies in the face of the fact that he pitched well enough to be a 12-15 game winner, but then this is the same year Seaver pitched Cy Young caliber ball and went only 14-11. Dianna Jeanneh Jones He normally threw lots of pitches and completed a high percentage of his games. Lolich for Staub---it might be the fattest trade in major league history. Mickey Lolich is one of my favorite players. ''A lot of the players I run into, there's all kind of head-scratching,'' he said. I'll take Mickey's pitching line - except for W&L - any time. Lolich was a good pitcher in his prime - he won 3 games in the '68 Series vs. the Cardinals, including Game 7. Bob P When he was with the Mets, I gave him the name "TOO MUCH EATER" but then again the Orange and Blue has always had big boned hurlers (El Sid. I recall one year where he had 121 RBI's. Lolich was a good one, underrated and dominating at times. March 5, 2006 I simply loved to see him walk onto the mound; I knew that we as a ball club would be a winner any time he pitched, but as they always say time moves on, but our memory is always around. 170 pounds, maybe not but here's a fact: hurled 376 innings in the early 70's. February 25, 2003 senor ortiz God bless him wherever he is and good luck! The fact of the matter is New York is a what have you done for me lately kind of city, and when Lolich came to the Mets he pitched like a nobody. For a fourth starter, on a four man rotation, Lolich was decent. 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